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First, wow, the Animaniacs Something Something Whatever Post now has 237 comments! Kudos! Seriously, thanks for sticking around to keep juice flowing here while we’re undergo reconstruction.

That said, The A! reboot has already happened now, and it’s not really big news anymore, so I don’t think we need to connect the assorted comment post to that anymore. So I’m un-pinning the A! Blah Blah Blah Post and Pinning this one instead. Use it the same way you used the previous one. As always, the same rules for comments still apply: Keep your comments, news and announcements relevant, clean, verified and attitude-free; anything that violates those ain’t gonna be published, so don’t try it and don’t try us. OK, now have at it!

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  1. The upcoming Boss Baby sequel will now be released on July 2, and have a simultaneous release in theaters and on Peacock. I don’t particularly care for the Boss Baby franchise, but it does make me wonder if future DreamWorks movies will have a simultaneous release in theaters and on Peacock. The upcoming Spirit Untamed (loosely based on Spirit Riding Free, which itself is loosely based on the early 2000s Spirit movie) will have a release on June 4 only in theaters, but what about after that? I’m not surprised with a simultaneous release on Peacock given that whole DreamWorks/Universal/Comcast deal in 2016 (which I still don’t entirely understand) with Dreamworks pushing to put more content on Peacock (which is owned by Universal).

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  2. A Garbage Pail Kids series is being made for HBO Max. It’s produced by Danny McBride, David Gordon Green, and Josh Bycel.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/garbage-pail-kids-animated-series-danny-mcbride-hbo-max-1234959124/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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    • silverstar

      Really? Why? Is Garbage Pail Kids suddenly relevant again? Or have we all fallen through a time warp back to the 1980s?

      There was an earlier GPK animated series made in 1987; it was supposed to air on CBS the fall of that year alongside Hello Kitty’s Furry Tale Theater and Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures, but due to its’ controversial nature and imagery, the series was pulled from the CBS schedule before it even debuted (we had a subscription to TV Guide at the time, and I remember the ad for CBS’s Saturday Morning schedule that year, the GPK show wasn’t even listed on the lineup; a single image of a garbage can with a pair of eyes peering out from under the lid was the only evidence that the show existed), though the series did apparently air internationally, such as in Canada, Europe and the Caribbean. Garbage Pail Kids’ only other pop-culture appearance was the that live-action movie, which Doug Walker (the Nostalgia Critic) cites as one of the worst movies he’s ever seen.

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  3. Teen Titans Go has done various crossovers (Young Justice, Powerpuff Girls 2016, Raven guest starring on Crossover Nexus, Scooby Doo, Freakazoid, DC Superhero Girls 2019 twice, and Beetlejuice, just to name a few). However, Space Jam was very unexpected.

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    • OK, that was kind of funny. I wish that DC and Warner would stop having Starfire say “the” in every one of her sentences, though. That joke is beyond tired now.

      It’s interesting how on Teen Titans: TAS, Robin was usually regarded as the coolest Titan, such as in the episode “The Quest” where the other Titans (in Robin’s absence) all want to dress like Robin and be him, yet on Go, Robin is often the butt of his friends’ jokes for being the only member of the team without super powers.

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      • I think Starfire constantly saying “the” a lot is only when Hynden Walch voices her, like in the Teen Titans cartoons or the 2015 DC Superhero Girls or in Lego Justice League: Gotham City Breakout. In other projects that give her a different voice actress like Kari Wahlgren (Justice League Vs Teen Titans, Teen Titans: The Judas Contract) or Grey DeLisle Griffin (DC Superhero Girls 2019), she doesn’t constantly say “the” a lot.

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  4. Pride Month is next month. It’s interesting to have 2 preschool shows releasing content involving a Pride Parade the same week. On Thursday, Madagascar A Little Wild released an episode about an Animal Pride Parade called “Whatever Floats Your Float”, with Marty trying to find a float for Odee Eliot (who’s nonbinary) since they don’t know what species they are. The ending reveals they’re an okapi. The character is voiced by Ezra Menas, who’s also nonbinary. Yesterday, the Blue’s Clues And You youtube channel released a song about the Pride Parade. The song was performed by Nina West.

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    • silverstar

      Haters, if you were already freaking out over Kellogg’s commemorative Together With Pride cereal

      …Then June is gonna be a loooooooooong month for you.

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      • Cereal is definitely an unusual way to support Pride Month. It’ll be cool to see what other networks and companies will do to celebrate Pride Month.

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  5. July 4 will see the release of We The People on Netflix, a series of 10 music videos that are 3 minutes long. Each music video will have a different director and animation style, and will focus on civic rights amongst other topics. The show comes from Chris Nee and the Obama family.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisdocnee/status/1400135242967486464

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/obamas-chris-nee-netflix-we-the-people-1234961873/

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  6. “A Haunt Of A Thousand Voices” is probably one of the best episodes of Scooby Doo And Guess Who. This video that shows the various introductions of the Scooby Doo gang meeting the voice actors really sells it.

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  7. Tom Anschiem talked about My Adventures With Superman in this article. A few things of note:

    1. While still an action show, it’s also a romantic comedy.

    2. Clark, Lois, and Jimmy are all college graduates who are in their early 20s.

    https://worldscreen.com/tvkids/keynote-warnermedias-tom-ascheim/

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    • silverstar

      Eh, not a fan of romantic comedies, but I’m still planning to give this show a shake, I’m just glad to see WB finally paying Superman some attention instead of just ramming Batman down our collective throats. I’d like to get a ‘definitive’ Superman series like the one WB’s giving Batman, (only bright, shiny and futuristic as opposed to dark and film noir-ish) but as a Superman fan I’ll take what I can get.

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  8. https://www.anniedebrock.com/biography

    The website of editor Annie DeBrock says that there’s an upcoming Scooby Doo DVD movie that will involving the Scooby Doo gang teaming up with Krypto The Super Dog. It’s most likely meant to tie in promotion for the theatrical Super Pets movie coming out next year starring Krypto. If nothing else, I think this can turn out pretty well given how both Scooby and Krypto are happy, optimistic dogs. The director is Cecelia Aranovich Hamilton (a director for DC Superhero Girls 2015) and the producer is Rick Morales (who’s worked on plenty of DC and Scooby Doo projects). There’s nothing else known at the moment. This is mentioned on her resume, which is a PDF, so you have to specifically go to the page.

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    • Why not? Scooby Doo has teamed up with just about every other franchise under the sun at this point. Also, Warner Brothers produced a Krypto the Superdog animated series for Cartoon Network back in 2005. That series was developed by Allen Burnett and Paul Dini, who of course previously worked on Batman: The Animated Series and Superman: The Animated Series.

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  9. Here’s another Space Jam 2 trailer.

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  10. Here’s the trailer for Monsters At Work.

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  11. Most of us have undoubtedly seen by this point the latest trailer for Warner Brothers Space Jam: A New Legacy (which is set to debut on July 16). This one is a parody of ESPN’s award winning 30 for 30 documentary series.

    Let’s now take a moment to savor the irony of a Warner Brothers feature film being heavily promoted on the Disney owned ESPN.

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  12. Insider has collected a wide database of queer characters in children’s animation dating all the way back to the 1980s.
    https://www.insider.com/lgbtq-cartoon-characters-kids-database-2021-06?page=see-the-data

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  13. There’s an upcoming Nickelodeon show called Middlemost Post. It’s created by John Trabbic III, a storyboard artist on the recent seasons of Spongebob SquarePants. The show centers on the adventures of Parker J. Cloud (a rain cloud), Angus (a human), and Russell (a seal) as they deliver mail all over their hometown Somewhere. Some clips from the show (which I assume are shorts) are on YouTube. The creator also confirmed that Parker is non-binary due to saying “It’s not a boy or a girl. It’s a cloud.” even though he describes the character with masculine pronouns.

    https://youtu.be/3v-PSe7Z3Fw (17:10)

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    • I’m no expert on this, like at all, but if the creator describes the character with masculine pronouns, then he’s not non-binary; he’s a male. He’s a male cloud. You can’t be non-binary and be identified by one gender. That’s like being a vegetarian who likes to eat meat.

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    • silverstar

      I’ve heard and read about Middlemost Post starting around last year. You can’t judge a book by its’ cover obviously, but on the surface, it appears to be one of those “weird for the sake of being weird” shows, like Pig Goat Banana Cricket, which leave a bad taste in my mouth. ‘Weird’ of course is a relative term in animation, but even the best absurdist comedy cartoons have an established set of rules within its’ own universe and work well when they abide by said rules. This on the other hand just seems like the creators just threw a bunch of crazy stuff at the screen and made a show about what stuck. There’s no reason for the main character to be a cloud, he just is. There’s no mythos attached to his being a cloud, he’s just a cloud who delivers mail along with a non-anthropomorphic seal and a mustachioed man and they all live on a boat on top of a mountain because weird = funny. Hilarious.

      One of the few shows which could make that work was Uncle Grandpa, and even that show set some parameters, albeit loosely, plus that show was genuinely funny and cleverly written.

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      • At 15:25 in video, John Trabbic talks about some of his animation influences. He mentions Fleischer shorts and Danger Mouse as some of his influences. When he was creating Middlemost Post, he said that Parker is a cloud who used to rain on people’s days, but now wants to brighten their days. Parker is a metaphorical reflection of John himself, who became more compassionate over the years. It’s a show about optimism. Also, in addition to SpongeBob, he also worked on Pig Goat Banana Cricket.

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    • silverstar

      Fair enough. Optimism and compassion are definitely things we could use more of right now. While Middlemost Post doesn’t look like anything I’d personally make plans to watch, I wish Mr. Trabbic luck. Don’t let my crankiness dissuade you or anyone else from checking this show out if it tickles your fancy. Keep in mind that I’m light years away from Nick’s target audience, so my opinion of Nick’s shows doesn’t carry the weight of a moonbeam.

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  14. Monsters At Work is no longer coming out July 2. It comes out July 7.

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  15. So, two things of note:

    1. So, remember when I posted that article about My Adventures With Superman? Well, at 8:15 in this video, Tom Anschiem mentioned how the Christopher Reeves Superman movies are a large inspiration for this series.

    https://worldscreenevents.com/festivals/keynote-warnermedias-tom-ascheim/

    2. Middlemost Post premieres in July. As for voice actors, we have Parker voiced by Becky Robinson (she’s mainly done anime, but also did voice work on Doug Unplugs) while Angus is voiced by John DiMaggio.

    https://www.awn.com/animationworld/middlemost-post-all-smiles-nicks-first-original-series-5-years

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  16. Coming July 30 is a musical Netflix series called Centaurworld. It’s created by Megan Nicole Dang (who worked on How To Train Your Dragon 3 and Pinky Malinky) and is a 20 episode series.

    “Centaurworld”  follows a war horse who is transported from her embattled world to a strange land inhabited by silly, singing centaurs of all species, shapes, and sizes.

    “According to the creator the story was inspired by her experience of growing up in an Asian American household in Southern California with serious academic aspirations, only to be thrown into a high school show choir by some quirk of her high school’s lesson scheduling.”

    The voice cast includes

    Kimiko Glenn as Horse

    Megan Hilty as Wammawink

    Jessie Mueller as Rider

    Josh Radnor as Durpleton

    Parvesh Cheena as Zulius

    Chris Diamantopoulos is CHED

    Megan Nicole Dong as Glendale

    The show is animated by Mercury Filmworks, whose other works include Wander Over Yonder (season 1 only), Mickey Mouse 2013, The Lion Guard, Hilda, and Kid Cosmic, among many other projects.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/netflix-orders-centaurworld-animated-series-1235591/?__twitter_impression=true

    https://variety.com/2021/film/festivals/netflix-shares-centaurworld-trailer-stills-to-karmas-world-back-to-the-outback-and-lin-mirandas-vivo-exclu-1234995707/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sketchshark/status/1404123430891393026

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sketchshark/status/1404149509072986113

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    • silverstar

      “Cocaine is a hell of a drug.”

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  17. Spidey And His Amazing Friends marks the first preschool Marvel cartoon, coming out August 6. We have Benjamin Valic as Peter Parker, Lily Sanfelippo as Gwen Stacy, and Jakari Fraser as Miles Morales. A few things of note:

    1. The theme song and music for the series done by Patrick Stump. This is the first Spiderman show since Spectacular Spiderman, as well as the first Marvel show since Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, to have a theme song.

    2. The series is animated by Atomic Cartoons, whose other works include Legend Of The Three Caballeros, Molly Of Denali, and various Lego Star Wars and Lego Jurassic World projects.

    3. Some of the people attached to the series are Ashley Mendoza (who’s worked on various Disney Junior shows like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and Jake And The Neverland Pirates), Chris Moreno (art director and co-producer on Muppet Babies 2018), and Chris Gilligan (supervising director on Goldie And Bear and TOTS).

    4. Some of the other confirmed voice actors include Nicolas Roye as the Spider computer, Kelly Ohanian as Doc Ock, Sandra Saad as Kamala Khan/Ms. Marvel (who she voiced in the Avengers video game from last year), and Justin Shenkarow (though it’s not known who he’s playing).

    5. It seems like the only other prominent heroes in the show are Ms. Marvel, Hulk, and Black Panther, and mainly as recurring characters.

    https://insidethemagic.net/2019/08/disney-junior-announces-new-spidey-tv-show-kc1/

    https://www.cbr.com/disney-junior-spidey-amazing-friends-mickey-mouse-funhouse-premiere-dates/

    https://www.licenseglobal.com/streaming-and-tv/exclusive-marvel-licensing-talks-marvels-spidey-and-his-amazing-friends-series

    https://www.dgepress.com/disneyjunior/pressrelease/grammy-award-nominated-musician-patrick-stump-performs-theme-song-for-marvels-spidey-and-his-amazing-friends-premiering-this-summer-on-disney-junior/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sandraramzysaad/status/1402761034562097153

    https://mobile.twitter.com/justinshenkarow/status/1404943340685066247

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheNicolasRoye/status/1402406676683128833

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  18. I found this Muppet Babies tweet from Tom Warburton from back in April. Why I only discovered it now is a mystery. In any case, the show didn’t win the Annie Awards for preschool programming, but here’s the acceptance speech for what would have happened if the show did win.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/misterwarburton/status/1384312520232497153

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  19. There’s a new show coming to Disney Channel in 2023. It’s called Kiff, and comes from South African creators Lucy Heavens and Nic Small. Kent Osborne is co-producer and story editor.

    The series follows Kiff, an optimistic squirrel whose best intentions often lead to complete chaos, and her best friend Barry, a sweet and mellow bunny. Set in the bustling mountains, where animals and magical creatures live together in harmony, the series features the duo, who take the town by storm with their endless adventures and zest for life. Each half-hour episode, comprised of two 11-minute stories, will include a new original song. Kiff is actually a slang word for cool in South Africa.

    The show is produced by Disney Television Animation in collaboration with Titmouse.

    https://deadline.com/2021/06/kiff-disney-channel-greenlights-lucy-heavens-nic-smal-1234776492/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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  20. The news just keeps coming in. In any case, we have a date of July 9. The Patrick Star Show is at 7:00pm with Middlemost Post at 7:30pm. This continues the trend where the early part of the decade will have at least 2 Nicktoons premiere on the same day. August 11, 1991 had Rugrats, Ren And Stimpy, and Doug. March 30, 2001 had Invader Zim and The Fairly Odd Parents. October 2, 2010 had TUFF Puppy and Planet Sheen. Now this trend continues with The Patrick Star Show and Middlemost Post both coming out July 9.

    https://deadline.com/video/nickelodeon-trailers-spongebob-squarepants-spinoff-the-patrick-star-show-middleman-post/

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  21. Looney Tunes Cartoons is coming to Cartoon Network on July 5!

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      Sofiablythe2014 already mentioned this, but thanks. 🙂

      Anyways, to Goldstar’s point: I’m guessing that CN is banking on this being summer vacation, that the bigger kids who are currently home will flock to LTC as an alternative to preschool programming. If school were in session, then yeah, an afternoon or evening time slot would be preferable. The show’s been airing on HBO Max for a while now, so it’s not exactly like it’s dependent on TV ratings; this is more than likely just a summer thing.

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  22. https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/scooby-doo-courage-the-cowardly-dog-trailer

    The crossover movie between Scooby Doo And Courage The Cowardly Dog comes out September 14.

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    • silverstar

      Eh, Scooby-Doo’s crossed over with just about everybody at this point, so why not Courage?

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      • 1. There was those crossover commercials that aired in the late 1990s/early 2000s, like this one. The fact that this eventually resulted in a crossover movie is pretty cool.

        2. On another note, the article says Jeff Bergman is voicing Eustace. This isn’t the first time he voiced him.

        3. This is probably the first time since the Johnny Bravo crossover that Scooby Doo crossed over with a Cartoon Network original (and not something like another WB property or a real life group of people like WWE or KISS).

        https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voice-compare/Courage-the-Cowardly-Dog/Eustace-Bagge/

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  23. According to their website, Icon Studios in Vancouver will be the animation studio for Alice’s Wonderland Bakery. They’ve done plenty of animation work for Disney Junior, working on Goldie And Bear (with Titmouse), Elena Of Avalor, TOTS (also with Titmouse), and The Rocketeer (with Wild Canary). This will also be the third show they made for Disney Television Animation, the first two being Elena Of Avalor and Monsters At Work.

    https://www.iconcreativestudio.com/#about

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  24. https://mobile.twitter.com/DillyDilworth/status/1407129164919062532

    When the DVD cover for the Scooby Doo/Courage The Cowardly Dog crossover was leaked the day before the trailer, Courage creator John R Dilworth said that he’s not involved with the project. I assume this meant that he didn’t know about the project, but that’s not the case. A Tumblr post from Maxwell Atoms (who declined to work on the project) said that he knew about the project, but declined to work on it. It also seems like, outside of this movie, Courage isn’t a priority with current Cartoon Network management.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DillyDilworth/status/1407128908852518917

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    • silverstar

      Sadly, that’s the dark side of having a show on a major cable network like Cartoon Network, Nick or Disney: once you sign that contract, your project becomes their IP and from then on they can do whatever they want with it, even after it’s over and/or you end up getting bounced from it. If they want to make a crappy reboot or a DTV or a crossover without you, then they can do it; they don’t need your permission or even your knowledge of it. I’ve always wanted to make sweet crazy money having a show on one of these networks, and you can’t beat the exposure, but that pressing little detail is almost enough to make me want to stay independent.

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      • This isn’t even the first WB revival project to not have the original creator (well, Courage is a Cartoon Network original, but the same idea applies). With the exception of Young Justice (where Brandon Vietti and Greg Weisman did return) and Scooby Doo And Batman: The Brave And The Bold (where BTBATB creators Michael Jelenic and James Tucker returned to produce the movie, with James co-writing it), every WB revival since 2016 either didn’t bring the original creators (like the 2019 Scooby Doo movies, the animated Adam West Batman movies [[though this is understandable since the creators are dead]] , and the Animaniacs revival) or only brought back some people but not all (like having Bruce Timm doing Batman And Harley Quinn and Justice League Vs The Fatal Five, but without those like Paul Dini and James Tucker, or Teen Titans Go Vs Teen Titans not having anyone from Teen Titans working on it and even some of the Teen Titans Go people involved either stopped working for the show beforehand or became barely involved).

        That part about independent projects reminds me of how Nico Colaleo (an animatic editor) made 2 YouTube series. He made Too Loud for the Dreamworks TV YouTube channel, but since it’s under a big company, they eventually decided to end the show. He also made Ollie And Scoops, which is on his own YouTube channel. He’s able to do what he wants, but the episodes come out at a slower rate compared to Too Loud and its seasonal releases.

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  25. It looks like Disney Plus is changing up how they put out seasons of currently running shows on television. Previously, it meant waiting at least 1 month after the season finished airing on tv before the whole season comes to Disney Plus. It’s instead being done in bunches. The first five episodes of The Owl House season 2 (airing from June 12-July 10) will be available on the streaming service on July 21. The next five episodes (airing until August 14) could probably come on August 25, and I would assume episodes in the second half of season 2 would be distributed the same way. It means rather than waiting like 9-12 months at least before a season of any Disney show drops, you would most likely only have to wait 1-2 months for various bunches of episodes.

    https://dmedmedia.disney.com/news/next-on-disney-plus-july-2021

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  26. I almost forgot. The voice cast for the upcoming My Little Pony movie came out. It’s coming to Netflix September 24.

    https://collider.com/my-little-pony-a-new-generation-netflix-release-date-cast/

    Also, the movie is co-`written by Gillian M Berrow, who wrote for Friendship Is Magic.

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  27. Here’s the teaser trailer for Encanto.

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    • Mirabel is only 15? She looks older to me. I would’ve guessed that she in her early 20s.

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  28. A new Cartoon Network show called Battu is currently in development. It’s created by Matthew A. Cherry and Chaz Bottoms, and is a musical comedy.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/matthew-a-cherry-cartoon-network-studios-musical-comedy-battu-1234981938/

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  29. Guys, I don’t know what’s wrong with me. I watched Space Jam: A New Legacy last Friday (Not in theaters. We have HBO Max, so we streamed it at home), and I plan to watch Jellystone when that series premieres on July 29. I even plan to see at least one episode of Bugs Bunny Builders whenever that series premieres on Cartoonito. I know that the latter is a preschool show, but I’m legit curious as to how Warner Bros. will try to have Looney Tunes style humor and make it accessible to tiny tots. I’m as much of a Looney Tunes/Warner Brothers fan as I always was, but for some reason, I can’t get excited about the upcoming streaming series Tiny Toons Looniversity. At all. As hard as I try, I can’t make myself feel even the slightest bit jazzed about this show. Even upon learning that the most annoying character in the franchise, Elmyra, won’t be featured on the new show, I still can’t muster up any sort of enthusiasm for TTL.

    One reason could be because I’m basically done with kiddifications. I’ve seen enough of those in the late 1980s and early 1990s. And with WB bringing the Looney Tunes back into the spotlight with several upcoming projects (both on TV and feature films), who even needs a new Tiny Toons series? Like I said, I did that 20 years ago. Trying to revisit Tiny Toons now would be like trying to go back to elementary school. It’s hard for me to get back into that frame of mind after so much time has passed.

    This may be a unpopular opinion and also a bold take, but I’m thinking about just skipping Tiny Toons Looniversity altogether, as in neither watching the show nor talking about it. I’m sure that it’ll be at least passable if not good, but I have zero interest in revisiting Tiny Toons. I still have yet to see a complete episode of the new Animaniacs,; I’ve only seen a few clips of it on YouTube (largely because I don’t have Hulu and I’m not going to pay for a whole other streaming service for just one show). Based on what I’ve seen of it, the new A! is good, but not the ground breaking game changer that the first one was. It’s been renewed for a 2nd season and I’ve heard rumors of a possible 3rd season. Still, any enthusiasm that I might’ve had for a new A! flew right out the window when I found out that Slappy Squirrel (my favorite segment on A! after the Warners) wouldn’t be part of the new show. Cutting that cast down to just the Warners and Pinky and the Brain but still calling the series Animaniacs seems empty to me. Tom Ruegger was right; WB should’ve called the new series something else. Getting back to the point, I have no desire to see the reboots of A! of Tiny Toons Looniversity. I prefer to leave TTA in the 1990s where the series thrived. Tiny Toon Adventures was fine. Animaniacs was fine, but both shows are products of the 1990s. They don’t need to be rebooted. How about we stop strip mining the nostalgia of millenials and just let things be?

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    • silverstar

      Yeah, I’m with you; I’m basically over Tiny Toons and Animaniacs, which is probably why I’m in no hurry to see the new A! episodes and I have no interest in Tiny Toons Looniversity. Now that we seem to be in a Looney Tunes renaissance of sorts, are next-gen Looney Toon Kids really something we need right now?

      TBH, I was kind of over Tiny Toons towards the end of its’ run, and it appeared that the show’s producers and writers were on a similar wavelength. By the time they got to episodes like Toons Take Over, Special Classes Day and Two-Tone Town, the Tiny Toons had basically devolved into parodies of themselves and it seemed like the cast and crew would’ve rather been doing anything but working on the show. I mean, Two-Tone Town starts with Buster worried that they’re becoming old hat and it ends with he and Babs getting tossed aside in favor of black-and-white toons from the 30’s. I know that was basically the joke, but something about that left a bad taste in my mouth. (Truth be told, the main thing I liked about Two-Tone Town wasn’t the Tiny Toons or the Two-Tones, but the fake show WB was promoting, Acme Oop! A Spielbergian take on ;Looney Tunes, shorts? Forget the Tiny Toons and the Two-Tones, I want to see that show!)

      As for A!, it’s not a trainwreck, granted, but something about this new one just seems kind of cynical and empty, like it’s a just naked cash-brag/nostalgia wank. Or maybe I’m just over the Warner sibs and I was never a big Pinky & the Brain fan, so a show with only them doesn’t ding my chimes. So, as I’m currently doing with A!, I’ll likely pass on Looniversity and just watch the odd clip that gets uploaded to YouTube.

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      • Given how many of the people working on Tiny Toon Adventures moved over to Animaniacs, they probably just hurried things along so they could move onto that show and more of their effort into it.

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    • silverstar

      True story: when Warner/Amblin first began throwing out suggestions for what their next collaboration after Tiny Toons would be, Steven Spielberg suggested a Plucky Duck spinoff (The Stupendous Plucky Duck Show or something similar) but Tom Ruegger didn’t want to just make a continuation of Tiny Toons, he wanted to make a new show with original characters. Tying all this to what’s been said here already, I think that’s one reason why Animaniacs has always had more staying power and greater popularity than Tiny Toons: A!, while done in the spirit of Looney Tunes, has always been its’ own thing and the characters were 100% original, whereas TT even at its’ greatest heights, was just a kiddification, a pint-sized knockoff of the Looney Tunes. A! can stand on its’ own where TT really can’t.

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  30. silverstar

    Welp…Space Jam: A New Legacy premiered this weekend, and the results were…predictable. Critics are raking this movie over hot coals (just like they did with the original Space Jam) and we’re getting the inevitable string of YouTube reviews for it, ranging from positive to mixed to negative, which is to be expected.

    BUUUT, I’ve gotta say, one of THE most shameful and cringe-worthy reactions to this movie that I’ve seen so far came from YouTuber Joe Vargas of the Angry Joe Show. Now I want to preface what I’m about to say with the revelation that I am in fact a regular viewer of Joe’s content; I’m subscribed to his channel and will continue to be so; Mr. Vargas can be entertaining, informative and downright funny when given the right opportunity and motivation, so I don’t mean this as a knock on him or his co-contributors at all, however, Joe’s review of this movie was an embarrassing spectacle to behold. As a regular viewer of Joe’s channel, I was honestly hoping beyond hope that he would simply choose to not review this movie; I could tell from his reaction video to the trailer that he wouldn’t be able to approach it impartially; in that video he declared that the original Space Jam “was (his) childhood”, which is a HUGE red flag often uttered by retro-snobs (it didn’t help that Joe’s co-star Alex pointed out that later in that same sentence he admitted to remembering very little about the original), so I was really hoping that he’d just skip this one. Unfortunately he didn’t.

    Now, I saw Space Jam: A New Legacy myself this past Friday; I’m already subscribed to HBO Max, so Jason and I watched it together, then I got the notification on my phone that Joe had uploaded his review of the movie, and I gritted my teeth and braced myself for the shit storm that I knew was coming. He did not disappoint.

    Listen, Space Jam: A New Legacy wasn’t perfect; I’m a Looney Tunes fan, but I’m not delusional. As many of us know by now, there are a number of legitimate complaints one can lob at this movie: it didn’t need to be 2 hours, it was bloated, it was a giant commercial for Warner Bros., NBA stars aren’t master thespians, the studio’s decision to drop Pepe LePew (and consequently Penelope Pussycat, who was originally slated to be part of the Tune Squad in this movie) from the film was questionable at best. MY biggest complaints about the movie were that Lola Bunny was once again turned into a bland cipher who’s only real trait is being good at sports (I wished we had gotten the wacky version of the character from The Looney Tunes Show) and we didn’t get the screwball version of Daffy Duck (in fact, overall Daffy didn’t really do all that much here), but Joe just came off like a butthurt 90’s kid who threw the same tantrum that all 90’s kids throw whenever a studio dares to make a new version of a property that they grew up with.

    Watching Mr. Vargas, Joe Lopez (aka Other Joe) and Alex moan and groan and scream and cry over this movie was painful to watch, especially since half the complaints they lobbed at it (particularly those from Joe himself) just plain made no sense. They reeked of coming from someone who lacks a basic understanding of plot, story structure, show business and how movies and fiction in general work, which I know not to be the case with Joe Vargas. He’s an intelligent, strong, passionate guy, but here he just looked like a kid throwing a temper tantrum. I’m trying not to make this rebuttal too long, so I’m just going to cherry pick some of his more absurd and problematic complaints against this movie, and offer my own counterpoints with my usual brand of quippy snark: (WARNING: Spoilers ahead for those who haven’t seen it yet.)

    “This movie wasn’t just bad, it was disrespectful!”

    ‘Disrespectful’? To who? Who exactly is this movie’s existence ‘disrespecting’, precisely? (Now I’ve had this conversion with retro-snobs more times than I can count, so if I had been there and asked this on camera, the response probably would’ve been something along the lines of “It’s disrespectful to fans of the original!” to which my response would be “Here’s the thing: this movie isn’t for fans of the original, it’s for KIDS who weren’t alive in 1996, and likely haven’t even seen the original, at least not in its’ entirety. You 90’s kids had your Space Jam, let today’s kids have theirs.”)

    “They had all these famous characters in the audience, and they didn’t do anything!”

    Why were you expecting them to do anything? They were the audience; the audience isn’t supposed to rush onto the court and disrupt the game. The original Space Jam had a bunch of obscure Looney Tunes characters in the stands and you’re not whining about them not leaping onto the court to help out, so why is this somehow different?

    “They met Superman, but they didn’t talk to Superman!”

    OK, I’ll give him this one; Superman could’ve had a line of two, after all Woman Woman had dialogue in her scene. As a fellow Superman fan, I can relate.

    “They didn’t get Superman to join the team, and Batman was in the stands and he didn’t do anything!”

    Again, I don’t know why you thought any of that was going to happen. This movie was about LeBron James teaming up with the Looney Tunes for a game of hoops, it wasn’t about Superman, Batman or the Justice League. They had no horse in this race. LeBron needed Bugs’ help to recruit a team to get his son back, and Bugs was using this as a way to reunite the Looney Tunes, who all left him alone on their world; they were helping each other out. Throwing Superman and Batman into the mix would’ve been superfluous, to say nothing about how anticlimactic would it have been if they had given us all this hype about LeBron and the Tunes squaring off against the Goon Squad, only to have the Justice League step in and clean house on everybody. If they had recruited Superman, then the game would’ve been over in five minutes.

    “They weren’t playing real basketball!”

    The wha…? Are you serious? This is a comedy movie about toons battling CGI monsters in a comedy life-sized basketball video game designed by a kid. Why were you expecting them to be playing ‘real basketball’? Are you familiar with the Harlem Globetrotters? Those guys don’t play real basketball either; the refs don’t call them out for using ladders, b-balls with strings attached to them, buckets of water and confetti or for pantsing members of the Washington Generals. Know why? Because they know it’s a just a show. You should really just relax. Also, news flash: they didn’t play real basketball in the original movie either! Have you forgotten the scene where Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam shoot bullets through a ball while imitating John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction?

    “The rules didn’t make any sense!”

    I guess you were either distracted or perhaps taking a bathroom break when Al G. Rhythm said at the start of the game that there were no rules.Again, cartoon comedy movie. What were you expecting?

    “Rick and Morty made an appearance, for no reason!”

    That was a cameo. You do know what a cameo is, right? Big Bird cameoed in The Muppet Movie, Oscar the Grouch cameoed in The Great Muppet Caper, Stan Lee cameoed in every MCU movie up until his death. Were any of those cameos necessary to the plots of those movies? No. They were just fun little appearances meant to surprise the audience, that’s what cameos are.

    “(The Nerdlucks) had a cameo, but they didn’t do anything! I thought they were gonna mind control them or something!”

    Again, cameo. The Nerdlucks’ appearance was just an Easter egg and a nice little callback to the original Space Jam. That’s it. This was not a direct follow-up to the first movie. This story wasn’t about the Nerdlucks. I personally didn’t need nor want to see the Nerdlucks step in to make trouble for the Tunes because I already saw that. I would’ve felt ripped off if the second movie’s plot was just a cheap rehash of the first one.

    “The Michael B. Jordan cameo was a slap in the face!”

    Yeeah. That was a joke, guys. You know, that thing that comics do when they’re not being serious? You fellows earn a living making funny videos, why are you suddenly acting like you don’t understand how jokes work? The producers never said that the real Michael Jordan was going to turn up; he said in 1997 that he had no interest in doing a sequel, which is why we got Looney Tunes: Back in Action instead. And I guessed you guys missed the presser when Don Cheadle said that Michael Jordan was going to be in the movie, just not in the way you’re expecting. If you legitimately thought that His Airness was going to appear in this movie, then that’s on you, not them.

    “Bugs Bunny turned up at the end, but they didn’t explain how!”

    Again, this is a legit nitpick. Up to that point there was no indication that the fictional characters could exist outside of the Serververse. Maybe they couldn’t before, but now they can with Al G. Rhythm gone, but if that was the case, they could’ve indicated such.

    “The hand-drawn scenes were too animated?”

    We actually did a triple take when Joe said this. “Too animated”? Exqueeze me? Baking powder?? What in the blue hizell does that even mean? I’ve seen limited animation and I’ve seen cheap animation, but how can any cartoon be “too animated”? That’s the equivalent of getting your complimentary glass of water at a sit-down restaurant then ordering the waiter to take it back because it’s too wet. The hand-drawn animation was fine. The CGI animation was fine. Regardless of what you thought of the movie, one thing it was not was cheaply made. Joe was just looking for reasons to rag on the movie at this point. When he got to this part, no joke, I nearly stopped the video. He stopped making sense a while ago and now it just looked like he was fighting off sleep.

    These guys were to trying so hard to trash the movie that they couldn’t even offer passing praise for what was genuinely good about it. The Looney Tunes were funny. There were good gags here. The WB Serververse looked cool. The whole “Dude, we’re getting the band back together” sequence of Bugs and LeBron traveling to different WB planets to round up the other Tunes was one of my favorite sequences in the movie. (My only real gripe with this scene is that they showed a movie or franchise world for everybody character to be in except for Gossamer; he just poofed onto the screen during the montage. I know WB doesn’t own the classic monsters, but surely there was some WB-owned horror, Gothic or sci-fi franchise they could’ve used for Gossamer; have him hanging out with Swamp Thing or something. That to me was like how Chewbacca was the only one of the rebels to not get a medal in A New Hope.) Granny got jokes! The stuff they did with Granny was great. I was loving Gonzo Granny; I hope we get more of this portrayal in future Looney Tunes projects, especially since she was just a cheerleader in the first movie. If Lola’s not going to be funny, a wacky Granny is the least the producers can do.)

    And you guys aren’t even going to mention how DC World was basically a huge DCAU tribute, with Metropolis, the Watchtower, Atlantis and Gotham City from Superman: TAS, Justice League and Batman: TAS respectively, and cameos from Clark Kent/Superman, Dick Grayson, Selina Kyle, Comm. James Gordon, Jimmy Olsen, Lois Lane, Alfred Pennyworth, Harlene Quinzel, Aquaman, Batgirl, The Flash and GL John Stewart? The movie deserves some props for that alone. I figured with you guys being 90’s kids you’d at least appreciate that, but no, this movie couldn’t earn so much as ONE compliment from you guys.

    -Given his obvious attachment to the original, I really think it would’ve been better if Joe and company had just made this statement early on: “Hey, guys, look. I’m just too close to the original Space Jam. It’s one of my favorite movies and an integral part of my childhood, therefore it will be impossible for me to give you an impartial review of the new one, so I’m just gonna skip this movie; I won’t be watching it or reviewing it. I hope you understand.” I usually give these guys more credit, which is why it was so hard to witness them acting like stereotypical grown-ass dudes who whine endlessly about something that’s clearly made for children. I’m going to continue to watch their content, but that review…yeesh!

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  31. The teaser trailer for Turning Red came out. The movie is set in Toronto in the early 2000s.

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  32. Here’s the trailer for Chip And Dale Park Life. It’s a collaboration between The Walt Disney Company France and Xilam Animation (which is why this show will be non-verbal, much like their other works).

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    • silverstar

      I haven’t seen a ton of Xilam shows, but offhand the only one I can recall that had dialogue in it was Shuriken School, which for a time aired in the US on Nicktoons Network.

      Story time: back in 1989, when I first heard that Chip ‘n’ Dale would be getting their own series, I thought it was going to be something like this: Chip ‘n’ Dale living in a forest or a park just doing stuff and running afoul of other animals and locals; I didn’t think they’d be fighting crime and stuff. (Though on that note, it’s worth mentioning that the original draft of Rescue Rangers didn’t feature Chip ‘n’ Dale, but an original mouse character named Kit Colby.)

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  33. There’s no date yet, but I Heart Arlo comes out next month. Go to 5:23 in the video.

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  34. The Star Trek animation panels video was put on YouTube. The first 31 minutes are devoted to the Nickelodeon produced Star Trek Prodigy. There’s some fun stuff here, but the main thing of note is the sneak peek at the 28 minute mark.

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  35. For some reason, my comment didn’t go through. In any case, during Comic Con, a sneak peek of The Ghost And Molly McGee came out.

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      To reiterate my previous impressions, I don’t know if I’ll be watching this regularly, as it’s billed as a musical comedy and I’m not crazy about musicals, plus there are other upcoming shows which click with me more than this does, but the designs and animation are nice, there seems to be talented voice actors behind it, Dana Snyder is always funny and Molly herself is absolutely adorable. Bonus points for having a whole, 2-parent family on a Disney production.

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  36. Now this is a surprise. The first episode of Centaurworld was put onto YouTube 4 days before its Netflix debut. Granted, Ridley Jones had 2 episodes that were put on YouTube before its official July 13 debut, but this was unexpected.

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  37. Wow I am posting a lot today. In any case, according to storyboard artist Chad Frye, season 2 of Green Eggs And Ham comes out Friday November 5.

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    • silverstar

      A Green Eggs and Ham show? Wha…?

      -Oh yeah, that! I keep forgetting that’s a thing. 😛

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  38. There will be a trio of Goofy centric shorts coming to Disney Plus on August 11. Each short covers Goofy in various situations he deals with at home. All the shorts are directed by Eric Goldberg and are produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios.

    https://d23.com/inside-goofys-hilarious-and-relatable-how-to-stay-at-home-shorts-from-walt-disney-animation-studios/

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