The ‘Animaniacs’ Reboot and Other Assorted Stuff Discussion Post

Jason (Goldstar)’s “No New Animaniacs!’ Unpopular Opinion post was supposed to be him stating how he felt that Animaniacs should be left as-is and not receive a reboot–then Warner Bros. had to go and announce a reboot of the show. Suddenly, all of the comments to that post were about the reboot, thus undermining the point of the original post.

I’m personally not all that psyched for this reboot, but you guys clearly are, because the comments, news and updates about it keep coming. So we’ve decided to make a new post just for discussion about this show. Any new comments anyone has about the A! reboot should henceforth be made here instead of in “No New Animaniacs!”, and any subsequent comments regarding the A! reboot that gets posted in the Unpopular Opinions post will be redirected over to this one. So have at it, folks; personally I don’t have anything more to say about this than what I’ve stated already.

240 thoughts on “The ‘Animaniacs’ Reboot and Other Assorted Stuff Discussion Post

  1. So, two things about this clip:

    1. I never thought I would see a Mickey Mouse cartoon with a giant Goofy kaiju robot. It’s so nonsensical that it’s actually kind of amusing.

    2. Himari is voiced by Romi Dames. It’s interesting how she was born in Japan, yet she rarely voices Japanese characters. The only other time I can think of is with Kiazuki in an episode of We Bare Bears. She’s mainly known for 3 roles: Traci Van Horn (Hannah Montana), Musa (Nickelodeon dub of Winx Club), and Lena Luthor (DC Superhero Girls 2015 and Lego DC Superhero Girls).

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  2. On Monday, a new DreamWorks show will come out on Hulu and Peacock called The Mighty Ones. It’s created by Sunil Hall (Powerpuff Girls 1998, My Life As A Teenage Robot, The Mighty B, Gravity Falls, Pickle And Peanut) and Lynne Naylor Reccardi (wife of the late Chris Reccardi) (she’s worked on The Ren And Stimpy Show, Batman: The Animated Series, Samurai Jack, Powerpuff Girls, Spongebob, The Modifiers, Wander Over Yonder, Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go, and Foster’s Home For Imaginary Friends). Here’s the description:

    “The series follows the hilarious adventures of four small-but-mighty best friends: Twig (Josh Brener), Rocksy (Jessica McKenna), Leaf (Jimmy Tatro), and Very Berry (Alex Cazares). The pals live in an unkempt yard belonging to a trio of equally unkempt humans and, despite the obstacles they face, are always up for whatever life throws at them. Whether they’re soaring on soda lids, getting stuck in a ball of sticky goop, or worshipping a broken toilet, each day holds the promise of new adventures and surprises.”

    Here’s the trailer.

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    1. I read about that, then I saw the trailer. It’s definitely…original. Doesn’t look like Shakespeare, but at least it’s not yet another reboot or revival of some 80’s or 90’s property.

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  3. The thing I find interesting with Dreamworks shows is the amount of variety they have with the type of shows. There’s obviously those based on DreamWorks movies like The Adventures Of Puss In Boots, The Epic Tales Of Captain Underpants, Dreamworks Dragons: Riders Of Berk, and Kung Fu Panda: The Paws Of Destiny, but they also have shows that tie in with live action movies (Fast And Furious Spy Racers, Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous), based on comic strips (Harvey Street Kids, renamed to Harvey Girls Forever in season 2), based on graphic novels (Cleopatra In Space), based on 80s shows (Voltron Legendary Defender, She Ra And The Princesses Of Power), and even shows based on 60s properties (The Adventures Of Rocky And Bullwinkle, The Mr. Peabody And Sherman Show). They’ve also dipped into preschool programming with shows like Where’s Waldo 2019, DreamWorks Dragons: Rescue Riders, as well as the upcoming Doug Unplugs (based on a children’s book). I think The Mighty Ones is the first completely original DreamWorks show not based on an established property (even stuff like Kipo And The Age Of The Wonder Beasts is based on a webcomic, while Trollhunters and its sequel shows are based on the creator’s books).

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    1. Well, that’s unexpected. I haven’t watched Teen Titans Go! in a long time, but this is worth checking out. I wonder if Paul Rugg will be voicing the character.

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    1. File this under “Too Little, Too Late”.

      Of course several fans are going to get happy slacks thinking that this could or will lead to a permanent format change, though they should know by now that this won’t be the case, as an all Boomer/Gen-X rewind channel wouldn’t survive 2 years in the current media market. Do I need to remind y’all about Cartoon Network’s Thanksgiving Toon-In circa the mid-90’s, wherein CN (whose schedule was about 90% Hanna-Barbera reruns at the time) got their collective asses handed to them by Nickelodeon’s Non-Stop Nicktoons Weekend? If the all-classics format had been scoring Warner Media money, ratings and eyeballs, then they wouldn’t have rebranded in the first place.

      At this point Boomerang should just put a timer on the screen to count down the days until the TV channel shuts down and the online streaming service gets absorbed into HBO Max.

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    2. I don’t know how many kids will want to watch a bunch of shows that originally aired before they were born, but this should be a treat for Gen Xers and Boomers who can re-live the days when Boomerang was a throwback to old-school Cartoon Network, for one weekend anyway. This may not bring in huge ratings for the channel, but perhaps that’s not the intent. Anyone who wants the experience of old-school CN all the time should just subscribe to Boomerang’s streaming service. Five dollars per month isn’t a lot of money if one wants a taste of retro goodness. You just know that WarnerMedia will be running ads for HBO Max all during this event.

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  4. Jorge Gutierrez and Sandra Equihua are mainly known for creating El Tigre and working on The Book Of Life. However, there’s some other stuff with them I want to point out. The first is a Disney pilot from 2010 called Carmen Got Expelled. It’s about Carmen, a girl who’s constantly expelled from schools, and she only gets one more chance. The show was apparently rejected since Disney wanted Carmen to be a white girl who follows the rules, not a well meaning trouble maker.

    https://www.fxguide.com/quicktakes/an-animated-day-3-at-view/

    The second is an upcoming limited series called Maya And The Three. It’s part of Jorge’s current deal of producing content for Netflix.

    “Set in a mythical Mesoamerican inspired world, a warrior princess embarks on a quest to recruit three legendary fighters to help save the world of men and gods. Silvia Olivas (Elena of Avalor) is co-writer and co-executive producer, and Jeff Ranjo (Moana) is head of story.”

    https://deadline.com/2018/11/netflix-the-willoughbys-maya-and-the-three-trash-truck-my-fathers-dragon-go-go-cory-carson-kid-cosmic-animated-1202496603/

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  5. I like with Doug Langdale’s shows have evolved over the years. The first show he created (or in this case co-created) is Earthworm Jim, a very solid action comedy. The second is The Weekenders, a very fun, slice of life show. Then we get Dave The Barbarian, a hilarious medieval comedy. Then we have The Adventures Of Puss In Boots, an epic action comedy on Netflix that takes place before the 2011 Puss In Boots movie. It’s pretty fun to watch. His current show (another co-creation) is the DreamWorks show Cleopatra In Space, a sci fi action comedy that’s based on a graphic novel. Similar to Puss, it’s also a story driven show that has a heavy comedic influence. It’s currently on the Peacock streaming service in America, though it came out in other countries roughly a year ago.

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  6. https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/darkwing-duck-reboot-disney-plus-1234830283/

    It was recently announced that a Darkwing Duck reboot is currently in development for Disney+, and is produced by Seth Rogen’s production company. Some people have been speculating about the possibility of a Darkwing Duck reboot given his presence on DuckTales 2017 (to the point that the most recent 1 hour long special is called “Let’s Get Dangerous”, though it still builds off of what DuckTales’ season 3 arc has been doing). I’ve heard some people who think that Francisco Angones (a huge fan of the character) would’ve been involved with this, but as mentioned, this show is still in development.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankAngones/status/995120672962576384

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  7. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/disneys-muppets-problem-can-the-franchise-reckon-with-its-boys-club-culture

    So, I found this rather interesting article that talks about how The Muppets have always been seen as “a boys club” due to the lack of diversity, and it also talks about how poorly Disney has treated the Muppet performers. I do wish this also talked about the Muppet Babies cartoons, though they have a more niche audience, so I can understand not talking about them.

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    1. I don’t have Hulu, but I’ve been seeing clips of the new A! on YouTube and I’ve been reading the reviews. Peoples’ general impressions of the show so far have been mixed.

      I don’t think the bits about cancel culture, political correctness and gender-neutral bathrooms were really necessary (though they’re not enough for me to want to throw a fit and rant about SJWs like some folks on the internet), I didn’t think they needed to remove Hello Nurse and change Dot’s signature cuteness to possessing ‘wit’, but again, neither of those things are deal breakers for me; I do however lament the absence of Slappy (she was the best character on the show after the Warners, IMO) and I’m not really sure how long the show can stay fresh and interesting with just the Warner sibs and Pinky and the Brain, but it looks really nice, so there’s that. Bringing all of this full circle, I can see why Jason wasn’t too keen on a A! revival, the post that seemed to spawn all of this, in the first place. Some things are just best left in the eras they thrived in.

      Not bad so far, just not lightning striking twice like the producers were hoping.

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    2. There are a couple of choices that the producers of this A! reboot have made that leave me scratching my head:

      Why is Dot no longer “the cute one” and now “the witty one”? What was wrong with Dot being cute? That’s how she described herself. She’s wasn’t objectifying herself, and since when is “cute” an insult? I genuinely don’t understand the thinking behind that decision. I kind of understand the producers not bringing back Hello Nurse. It was a harmless joke, for the most part, and keep in mind that Yakko and Wakko are just kids, so nothing was ever going to come of their flirtation. Oh well, it’s not like Hello Nurse did very much on the show anyway. And Minerva Mink? Who needs her? Only horny furries liked Minerva and not for any artistic reasons. Of course, someone could always develop Minerva and give her some other dimensions besides just her being shallow and (allegedly) hot.

      Also, it strikes me as odd that A! new producers decided to drop every recurring segment on the original show except for two. When I found out that Slappy Squirrel wouldn’t be returning, my enthusiasm for this reboot was already cut in half. I didn’t love every segment on the original show, but if they weren’t going to bring any of the old ones back, why not make some new ones? It just seems odd for a show that was designed from the get-go to have an ensemble cast to suddenly be reduced to only two of the regular/recurring segments. My chief concern is that the Warners and Pinky and the Brain may risk being over exposed if they’re all there is to the show. This is especially true in the case of the latter, as I never felt that P&tB needed their own spinoff series to be begin. They’re OK in small doses, but they don’t have a lead characters’ aura.

      Some people seem to be digging the reboot so far, but it doesn’t look like it’s going to set the world on fire like the first series did. Going back to what I said way back when I typed that segment of Unpopular Opinions; it would be hard to replicate the success of something like an Animaniacs, as A! succeeded through a very specific set of circumstances that couldn’t be replicated. The reboot isn’t bad, but it doesn’t look like this will make a huge cultural impact the way that the original show did. So far, I haven’t heard anyone saying “This reboot sucks!” or anything, so there’s that.

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      1. I’m assuming the show is taking the route of Muppet Babies 2018 in starting out with a specific set of core characters before eventually introducing classic characters, though it does seem done better in the former. I’d say it’s due to how both shows are different. Animaniacs is a sketch variety show. While not written in stone, a sketch comedy show means using a large cast of rotating characters since they’re just about trying to be funny and squeeze in plenty of jokes. Both Muppet Babies shows are not sketch comedies. They’re meant to tell stories that go “Here’s the conflict and moral of the episode. Here is the character or characters we’re focusing on. Here’s how they solve it. Also, add in humor.” Shows that are about a story (even slice of life, episodic shows) usually focus on a core cast of characters before eventually expanding. To give an example of how they contrast, one episode of new Animaniacs is called “Who Donut”, with Wakko trying to find out who ate his donuts. This sketch is just about squeezing in a lot of humor that relies on how desperate he is to figure out the truth, and less about a story. Compare to something like “Mystery On The Muppet Express” from Muppet Babies 2018, another mystery episode, where Animal’s stuffed toy is missing, and the episode is funny, but it’s about how he should learn to look at the details to find out what happened.

        Sorry if I’m going off topic. The point is that both shows seem to go for the same idea of focusing on core characters before introducing others, but their different formats mean different executions and reactions.

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  8. Remember the DuckTales episode “Last Christmas”, where Russi Taylor voiced young Donald, and she used a voice almost exactly like the voice she uses for Huey, Dewey, and Donald? The most recent episode, “The First Adventure”, had another appearance from young Donald, where he’s voiced here by Cristina Vee (also known as Cristina Valenzuela). She’s mainly an anime and video game voice actor, but she’s also had roles such as Marinette from Miraculous Ladybug and Xochi from Victor And Valentino. She sounds really close to Russi Taylor here. If she ever takes over as the official voice of Huey, Dewey, and Louie outside the series, I wouldn’t mind.

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    1. Ever since Quack Pack (the show, not the DuckTales episode) I kind of prefer the triplets each having different voices so there’s another way to tell them apart and I also kind of like it better if Donald is the only Disney Duck who talks like that (it keeps him unique), but credit where credit is due: Cristina Vee nailed that voice. If she can replicate that sound for an adult duck, Disney could use her as a more comprehensible Donald.

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      1. I’m with you on the individual voices thing. It would be nice if all future projects give the triplets distinct personalities (whether it’s based on DuckTales 2017 or not) as well as individual voices.

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  9. I bet no one expected this. It looks like episode 6 of new Animaniacs was pulled off. Apparently, if you called up the number in the Pinky And The Brain segment (1-800-555-9999), it leads you to a number for something rather racy (a phone sex hotline). Warning ahead. Later, the episode was put back, but the message was taken out.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/cartuneaddict/status/1331088981040238592

    https://mobile.twitter.com/superkeegan9100/status/1331162586725961728

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  10. This is a bit troubling. On October 23, Jeffry Scott, who was the showrunner on the original Muppet Babies, sued Disney for not giving him proper credit for the 2018 series as well as supposedly stealing ideas he thought of for the 2018 series. This wouldn’t be the only time a Disney Junior show got hit with a lawsuit. In June 2018, there was a legal dispute involving Goldie And Bear, with the production company Milk Barn Entertainment (who worked on season 1) being deceived into thinking that they were cancelled after one season, and then season 2 was produced under Titmouse behind their backs. The circumstances are a bit different given how that lawsuit came out as Goldie And Bear was almost over while the Muppet Babies one came out before season 3 (which hasn’t come out yet). Still, this was not exactly good news to hear, yet the controversy surrounding this is rather quiet.

    https://mynewsla.com/hollywood/2020/10/22/muppet-babies-writer-sues-disney-in-la-over-reboot/

    https://www.thewrap.com/disney-hit-with-20-million-lawsuit-by-producers-of-kids-show-goldie-bear/

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  11. There have been various pilots produced for Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network, but I’ve never heard of one based on a webcomic. This is Harpy Gee, with the comic and pilot created by Brianne Drouhard. It definitely has a good vibe to it. One thing I find interesting is that Glen Murakami is a consultant for this short since he’s usually known for his work on DC cartoons like Justice League and Teen Titans, as well as co-creating Ben 10 Alien Force and Ben 10 Ultimate Alien. Then again, he did direct a TMNT tv special called Half Shell Heroes: Blast From The Past .

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  12. https://mobile.twitter.com/DrewTailored/status/1333966411916398592

    Drew Taylor, the editor for the website Collider (a reliable source), mentions DuckTales ending after season 3. We do have to wait for either Disney or the showrunners to confirm directly, but I do trust what he says. I’m not too surprised with this, what with the show moving back to Disney XD (even though the creators wanted it back there) as well as no season renewal announced. Usually these days, Disney would announce upcoming seasons before the current season starts (like how DuckTales season 3 was announced before season 2 came out, but there’s been no announcement of season 4 before season 3 came out).

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    1. Honestly, that wouldn’t surprise me, since most Disney animated series rarely go beyond three seasons (Phineas & Ferb being one notable exception). Usually, Disney just wants to have 52 episodes of a cartoon series because that way, the channel can air a different episode every week for a year without repeating. Plus, with all of the world building, cameos, shared universe and other “bigness” that’s been happening on DuckTales this season, it would make sense that this season would be the show’s last. After creating a Disney Afternooniverse, how do you top that?

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    1. Alma and her family are Puerto Rican. Diversity, so kudos for that, but beyond that, it’s just a slice of life show about a kid and her family; there’s no twist. Sounds kind of boring, but it’s not made for me, so who am I to judge?

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    1. That’s cool, I guess. Personally, I’ve never had any emotional connection with Thundarr the Barbarian. I was aware of it, and I saw a few episodes, but I prefer comedy to action overall. For me, Thundarr was just a show; I didn’t love it or hate it. If George Krstic and Jody Schaeffer want to make a new Thundarr series, more power to them.

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    1. I had no idea what Dog Man even was until about 2 days ago. Confession time: I’ve never read any of Dav Pilkey’s books; I didn’t grow up with them, so I have no emotional connection to any of these characters. I don’t get it myself, but the kids seem to like it.

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    1. ‘Cause that’s what the Big Hero 6 franchise needs: more over-exposure of Baymax.

      Aside from some of the Marvel stuff (here’s hoping we can finally get a good Fantastic Four movie), some of the Marvel stuff and that new Afro-centric sci-fi show, most of this is stuff that I’ve either never seen or have no interest in. Let me know when someone at Disney decides to make a new Mickey Mouse Works or a Disney Channel cartoon that’s funny.

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  13. In 2022, there will be a Pixar movie called Lightyear. It’s obviously about Buzz Lightyear, with the movie focusing on Buzz Lightyear the hero and how he came to be. Chris Evans is in the starring role. I’m guessing this is essentially going to be like Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command, but if it was made by Pixar itself instead of Disney Television Animation. Still, the movie will most likely do its own thing.

    https://deadline.com/2020/12/pixar-has-buzz-lightyear-movie-in-the-works-with-chris-evans-turning-red-from-bao-filmmaker-domee-shi-1234654489/

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  14. A major project involving Chip And Dale Rescue Rangers movie is what prevented the characters from having a major role in DuckTales 2017. Series co-creator Francisco Angones said how because they were being used for a larger project, they couldn’t use them in the show. They did eventually appear in an episode, but they were never named onscreen (only being credited as chipmunks) with any dialogue just being squeaks. I’m guessing this was the project he was talking about, a live action Chip And Dale Rescue Rangers movie.

    https://ew.com/movies/john-mulaney-andy-samberg-chip-and-dale-rescue-rangers-movie/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankAngones/status/1249007432191229954

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    1. On the upside, that’s another female character, something that the Muppet Show Players are lacking. On the down side, fans will now be wondering what became of this character in the present day. It’s been over a decade, and we’re still waiting for adult Skeeter to appear in the Muppet’s official canon.

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      1. I’m not sure that would happen. Given how the Muppet performers are treated poorly by Disney, I doubt any characters introduced in the Muppet Babies shows would become part of the regular Muppets.

        https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/disneys-muppets-problem-can-the-franchise-reckon-with-its-boys-club-culture

        The Muppets have always been behind the times when it comes to female representation, which I doubt will change anytime soon.

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  15. It’s kind of safe to say that Bloo from Foster’s Home For Imaginary Friends is a rather divisive character, mostly from how he’s such a huge jerk (especially in later episodes). Craig McCracken took to Twitter in 2017 where he mentioned that Bloo never matured like Mac did since he was still trying to treat him like a very young kid even though his idea of fun has changed when he got older. I’ve heard some people (not in this comment section though) who felt it should’ve been brought up in the show itself.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CrackMcCraigen/status/880905435003314176

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CrackMcCraigen/status/880906350741471232

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CrackMcCraigen/status/880907023541350400

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    1. rastergrafx (@rastergrafx) posted:
      Animation Magazine revealed the first image of Craig McCracken’s upcoming Netflix show, Kid Cosmic.

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      1. Not a fan of the unibrow. Who seriously thought it was a good idea for the lead character to rock that Bert from Sesame Street look?

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      2. I will say that, based on this still image, it does have a different style than what Mercury Filmworks normally goes for. It’ll be interesting to see this in motion (since the company is known for shows with very fluid animation).

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  16. At one point, there would’ve been a spinoff series for Tangled The Series that would’ve focused on Varian and would’ve been made by two of the show’s storyboard artists (Anna Lencioni and Kaitlyn Ritter). It was rejected. There’s a full podcast that talks about it, but if you want something quick, there’s a 12 minute video that talks about it a bit.

    Given how the upcoming Disney tv shows based on movies (Baymax, Zootopia+, Tiana, Moana) will not be produced by Disney Television Animation (instead being produced by those working in Disney’s theatrical feature side), this proposed Varian spinoff probably would’ve clashed with whatever ideas they have for movie based tv shows.

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  17. I recently stumbled upon a pilot called Long Gone Gulch. It’s created by Zach Bellisimo (who’s worked on shows like Motorcity, Rick And Morty, and Victor And Valentino) and Tara Billinger (who’s worked on Mickey Mouse 2013). This pilot was funded by Kickstarter and took 5 years to make.

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    1. I’ve seen clips and trailers for this recommended to me in my YouTube feed.

      One of this project’s selling points is that it’s hand-drawn animation, no CGI, which is noteworthy. I don’t know whether this is intended for kids or adults, but I will say this: boasting all hand-drawn animation in this day and age is impressive, pity the art and character designs are as ugly as a baboon’s rump.

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      1. The beginning says it’s not recommended for anyone under the age of 7. So it would essentially be a TV-Y7 rated pilot that wouldn’t feel out of place on Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, or Nickelodeon.

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  18. The works of Marly Halpern Graser are interesting in how he’s mainly known for his work at Warner Brothers Animation, yet he’s also simultaneously worked on WB projects for the 3 big kids networks. He co-created Right Now Kapow (which aired on Disney XD), co-created Thundercats Roar and Yabba Dabba Dinosaurs (the former aired on Cartoon Network and the latter has aired in other countries on both Cartoon Network and Boomerang), and wrote Batman Vs Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (it’s a PG-13 movie, the first for a Nick animated movie and an animated TMNT project, but it’s on the lighter end of the rating).

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  19. The movie Connected will now release on Netflix, and go back to its original title, Mitchells Vs Machines (given that there are 2 other Netflix projects called Connected). It was considered for a theatrical release of March 12. As a refresher, the movie is written and directed by Michael Rianda and Jeff Rowe, who both worked on Gravity Falls.

    https://variety.com/2021/film/news/netflix-lord-miller-movie-mitchells-vs-machines-sony-1234889393/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AnimationisKey/status/1352309908394434561

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  20. https://mobile.twitter.com/nickandmore/status/1352455190562136069

    Friday January 22 is an interesting day for Nickelodeon. It’s the first time since July 7, 2007 that SpongeBob wasn’t shown on the main Nickelodeon channel. That’s over 13 and a half years ago. There’s still some reruns on Nicktoons Network, but it doesn’t dominate the schedule like regular Nickelodeon does. As for the schedule itself, outside of Nick@Nite and Nick Jr, they’re showing Bee Movie at 1:00pm, a Loud House marathon from 3:00-7:00, new Loud House and Casagrandes from 7:00-8:00, and Side Hustle at 8:00. Vailskibum94 put it best in that Spongebob is still Nickelodeon’s cash cow, but something like this shows that Nickelodeon isn’t completely relying on it.

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    1. Having seen more ads and clips of this movie, I have a few more thoughts:

      THESE are the heroes of this film? Really?? Aside from the titular duo, it’s just some huge guy and 2 kids, one of whom is a baby? Seriously?? These people don’t even seem to have any cool magic powers like the Benders on Avatar: The Last Airbender, which Disney desperately wants this to be). Pretty limp main party, I have to say. Also, I hate to be that guy, but where are the black people? They established in the trailer that brown people exist in this world, but they couldn’t throw one brother or sister in there? And what exactly are they trying to do? I know Raya has to unite the tribes (’cause that’s the plot of Avatar: TLA,), but how are they trying to go about it? What’s the plan? At least in A;TLA there was a clear-cut objective: the Fire Nation was going all fascist and trying to start a war, and the heroes needed to stop them, but what’s the objective here? Raya and crew just seem to be running around the desert doing stuff. Who or what is standing in their way? It can’t be that big of a threat if they need a baby to stop it!

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      1. I’ll take their word for it, but personally whenever I peep out any clips of this film, all I can see is the Mouse House trying desperately to have their own Avatar, and I don’t mean the one with the blue Na’vi aliens, that’s currently at Animal Kingdom in Disney World.

        So yeah, this isn’t really my kind of thing, but Raya has some cute feet, though. I’ll give it that.

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      2. That makes sense. No doubt Disney is hoping that it Raya does well, the studio can turn this into a franchise like Star Wars, and in order for the Mouse House to do that, they’d need to able to sell merch, i.e. toys. Any rating harder than PG couldn’t be marketed under the Disney moniker, then there couldn’t a McDonald’s Happy Meal based on Raya and the Last Dragon.

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  21. https://www.animationmagazine.net/streaming/archibalds-next-big-thing-is-here-takes-flight-as-peacock-original/

    It was recently announced that the DreamWorks preschool show Archibald’s Next Big Thing will be moving from Netflix (where the first 2 seasons were made) to Peacock. It’s pretty interesting to see a show jump from one streaming service to another. I know that was kind of the case with Star Wars: The Clone Wars, with season 6 being on Netflix but season 7 came out on Disney+ (with the show leaving Netflix), but a show designed for a streaming service from the start jumping to another streaming service is a surprise. It does make me wonder if currently running and future DreamWorks shows will be on Peacock. I mean, we have shows like Fast And Furious: Spy Racers and Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous being on Netflix and Doug Unplugs on Apple TV, but the former two have involvement from Universal, which has a heavy stake in Peacock. It is interesting.

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  22. https://ew.com/tv/big-hero-6-series-finale/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bob_schooley/status/1293951076056457216

    So, two things of note about Big Hero 6 The Series:

    1. The series finale is on Monday February 15. It’s Presidents Day, kind of like how the series finale of Gravity Falls was also on Presidents Day, also February 15.

    2. Season 3 having 11 minute episodes was due to the network wanting the show to emphasize comedy more. It’s also only 10 episodes in total instead of the 20-23 of the first 2 seasons.

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  23. Nico Colaleo, one of the people working on Kid Cosmic, said how there are at least 3 seasons for the show. Apparently, Netflix more or less asked Craig McCracken how many episodes he needed to tell the story. I bring this up since it makes me wish more networks and streaming services would be upfront and either say “You have this many episodes to work with.” or “How many seasons do you want?” when greenlighting shows. I’m guessing having an exclusive contract to one place means some leeway.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NicoColaleo/status/1356826265349550080

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NicoColaleo/status/1356833930507218945

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  24. https://kidscreen.com/2021/02/05/warnermedias-roadmap-for-world-domination/

    Tom Anschiem, president of Warner Media, talked about the plans he has for the future. For example, he mentions “turning the male-skewing brand for six to 11s into one that also has specific programming and blocks for preschoolers, families, and for the first time—girls.” Another is with how Sam Register is looking over both Cartoon Network and Warner Brothers Animation.

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    1. That sounds familiar. It’s the same audience that Time-Warmer claimed that the studio would skew towards with their “revamp” of the Boomerang channel back in 2014-2015. Of course, that turned out to be a nothing burger, and Boom’s streaming service has since made the TV channel irrelevant. However, if Warner Media truly wants to attract families, girls and tiny tots, I say more power to them. This likely will mean more programming for Cartoon Network and HBO Max, but we’ll see what they’ve got in store.

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      1. In regards to the preschool part, they currently have Batwheels and recently acquired the rights to air an upcoming Thomas And Friends series (sharing with Netflix). I imagine they’d want a preschool block like with Nick Jr and Disney Junior, though they’d need more content to make it a hit.

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  25. Already, I’ve been reading gloom & doom statements from viewers complaining that this move will be a death knell for Cartoon Network and that Tom Anschiem is the new Stuart Snyder, and to these people, I say: Folks, calm down. There’s no need to panic. This move actually makes sense from a business standpoint.

    CN knows that older kids and teenagers are in school during the early daytime hours, so there’s no need to program for them during that time, and it’s not like CN hasn’t tried to air preschool programming before. Anyone remember Tickle U, Big Bag and Small World? Attempting programs and programs blocks for girls and families isn’t bad idea. It could work if the shows are actually good. CN could conceivably take back the 8PM-9PM timeslot before Adult Swim. CN is also aware that most big kids are watching the internet more than TV these days, so CN is now trying to attract everyone else. CN never said that they were going to stop making shows for 6-11 year old boys; just that the network is trying to expand it’s audience beyond just them.

    Cartoon Network is trying to broaden it’s audience, not shrink it. That’s what Nickelodeon has always tried to do. Disney Channel’s programming tends to skew towards girls, but they have been attempting to attract a more general audience. There’s no reason why CN can’t do the same. This strategy could work if all or most of the new programming is in some way connected to cartoons. A girl’s block or a Family Time block is at least something different and is preferable to CN just running Teen Titans GO! twenty times a day. You’d think that people would be happy for there to be more variety on CN at this point.

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    1. “Cartoon Network is trying to broaden it’s audience, not shrink it.”

      ^^THIS.

      All of the people bitching and moaning about this news really need to follow the advice of Aaron Rodgers and R-E-L-A-X. CN expanding its’ audience target doesn’t mean that your precious CN shows (all 2 of them) are going away nor does it mean that preschool shows will be taking over the network.

      Cable TV as a whole is struggling right now; more and more people are cutting the cord, which is why streaming services are now sprouting up like weeds. Add to that how more and more kids who fall into CN’s target demographic (ages 6-11, mostly boys) are turning to the internet as their primary source of entertainment rather than TV, and you understand the pickle Cartoon Network is in. Face it, CN has been stagnant for a good while, for a variety of reasons.

      CN wants to keep butts in seats and as many eyeballs as they can get glued to them all throughout the day: little kids, big kids, teenagers, adults, families, boys, girls, everybody. Cable networks need all the numbers they can get, and expanding their horizons is the best way to achieve that goal in today’s market. They can’t just make shows for 10-year-old boys anymore.

      “Oh, noes! The network’s being massacred because now they’re going to carry Thomas the Tank Engine! It’s the end of CN!”

      For crying out loud, stop whining. These programmers know what they’re doing. Do you honestly think that CN is going to become all Romper Room all the time? The younger skewing shows will be airing during the morning to early afternoon hours, when the older kids are in school; why should CN cater to an audience that isn’t there just to live up to some imaginary ideal? And just because a show is airing on CN doesn’t mean you have to watch it. If a preschool show or a girls’ show or a family show comes on CN and it’s not your bag, just watch something else when it comes on! This isn’t rocket science.

      Nickelodeon and Disney Channel have been following this MO since their inceptions (they’re little kids’ channels until the big kids come home), and I notice that the Earth hasn’t spun off of its’ axis as a result. People seriously need to stop being so over-dramatic about this. This idea can legitimately work if the people in charge handle it properly and the shows that come from it are good and worth watching. CN is finally going to cut down on the nonstop Teen Titans GO! reruns; that’s a good thing.

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      1. To folks in the YouTube comments section and internet message boards: Stop running around screaming that the sky is falling! People are STILL whining and moaning that the very notion of Cartoon Network planning to air preschool shows is going to be the Kiss of Death to the network.

        One person on a board today stated that “Cartoon Network should cancel Batwheels and all of those other preschool shows and instead air reruns of more reruns of Adventure Time, Regular Show and shows from the 2010’s”. That’s right; we don’t even know what the new shows are going to be yet and if you’re old enough to be posting on a message board, then you’re clearly not in the age group that the preschool shows will be targeting, but yeah, these shows which aren’t made for you and haven’t even started airing yet should be canceled in favor of more reruns of recently ended shows, even though CN’s constant barrage of reruns and marathons of the 3 or 4 shows is part of why their ratings have been starting to dip. Makes perfect sense. To reiterate: NOBODY said anything about the all-ages shows going away from CN; again, they’ll likely air during the day when the bigger kids are in school, and Tom Anscheim mentioned in the original article that 1/3 of CN’s audience are preschoolers, so from a business standpoint it only makes sense to cater to them in some fashion. You don’t like the sound of Batwheels? Fine, just don’t watch it, bro; it’s not meant for you anyway. I don’t care about Batwheels either ’cause I’m not 5 years old, so I simply don’t plan on watching it when it premieres. The shows which don’t grab me I just don’t watch; it’s literally that simple.

        Then as if someone challenged this person to be even stupider and more hypocritical, when another poster mentioned that CN has already aired preschool shows in the past (namely Big Bag, Small World and Tickle U), said yahoo stated that he liked Big Bag and Small World. OK…

        1) Hypocrite much? You don’t get to cherry-pick; you can’t decry the arrival of a specific genre of shows then make an exception for the shows in that category that you personally like. It doesn’t work like that. If you’re OK with some preschool shows airing on CN, then you should be OK with preschool shows airing on the network altogether.
        2) If you’re old enough to remember those shows, you have to be at least in your thirties; that’s too old to be acting like a howler monkey, so stop screaming and flinging your feces around.

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  26. I need to get this off my chest: This current trend of network studios producing dark, edgy live action adaptations of beloved kids’ cartoons needs to die. A few days ago, I came in on my father watching that dark, gritty live action Winx Club on Netflix (he had no idea that it was based on a kid’s cartoon), I saw some of that and…just no. I still haven’t seen The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, nor do I have any intention to. One Riverdale is more than enough. Just stop.

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    1. I feel for all those employees who are about to lose their jobs, but beyond that, sorry folks, overall I’m not too surprised or upset about this news. Blue Sky’s films were hit-and-miss and they never managed to launch a franchise that could compete with the likes of Disney, Pixar, Dreamworks or Illumination. Their biggest commercial hit was Ice Age, and that series went to pot rather quickly; it was like each new sequel was somehow worse than the one just before it. Blue Sky’s final completed movie, Spies in Disguise, was mediocre at best, ironically the studio was hoping to turn that into a franchise, though I don’t see how that would’ve worked.

      So yeah, it sucks that this is happening, but at the end of the day, Blue Sky was just a small fish in a big pond, and without any major successes under its’ belt, it was just chum waiting to swallowed by one of the sharks.

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