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The ‘Animaniacs’ Reboot and Other Assorted Stuff Discussion Post

Jason (Goldstar)’s “No New Animaniacs!’ Unpopular Opinion post was supposed to be him stating how he felt that Animaniacs should be left as-is and not receive a reboot–then Warner Bros. had to go and announce a reboot of the show. Suddenly, all of the comments to that post were about the reboot, thus undermining the point of the original post.

I’m personally not all that psyched for this reboot, but you guys clearly are, because the comments, news and updates about it keep coming. So we’ve decided to make a new post just for discussion about this show. Any new comments anyone has about the A! reboot should henceforth be made here instead of in “No New Animaniacs!”, and any subsequent comments regarding the A! reboot that gets posted in the Unpopular Opinions post will be redirected over to this one. So have at it, folks; personally I don’t have anything more to say about this than what I’ve stated already.

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  1. So, I’ll just summarize what I said in the other thread. The show will have a virtual panel at New York Comic Con next month (which is October 8-11). Any news will be here.

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  2. I’m guessing the “and Other Assorted Stuff” portion of the title refers to unrelated things?
    I’m asking because something new just came out (not related to Animaniacs) that I want to share with you, but there is no appropriate place on this blog to post it.

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    • silverstar

      Yes.

      As y’all know by know, this site is undergoing a transformation; we’re entering the final stages before launching Twinsanity’s YouTube channel, after which this site will mainly function as a linkway to our channel with the occasional site news update and quick little jokey-joke post every once in a while (We plan to lay out our entire strategy of what’s going to happen site-wise in the months to come, but right now I’m too busy to sit down and do a bunch of typing; that’ll be revealed at a later time). Here’s the abridged version: when the channel is launched, then all of the blog posts we’ve done up to this point will be archived, and the new major posts (the ones with the fancy category names) will be done as videos.

      Long story short, we created this post for you guys to post news, info and updates so you won’t have to search around looking for the right post to comment under. I’m probably going to pin this post to the main page, since going forward the main bulk of our new content will be in video form.

      So yeah, if you have any animation or animation-adjacent news you’d like to share with us, from now on do it here. Same rules apply for comments as before, for newcomers I recommend checking out our post Comments About Comments before posting anything, so’s there won’t be any confusion. Enjoy!

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  3. Have you seen the trailer for Elliott From Earth? The crew behind Gumball has been working on this since that show was wrapping production a couple of years ago, and the trailer came out yesterday.

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  4. silverstar

    I’ve seen it. It looks OK I guess, nothing I’d go out of my way to watch, though. I don’t particularly like the designs of the aliens; they all look like variously colored balloon blobs. Not very imaginative.

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  5. I saw the trailer last night. The fact that this show was made by the crew behind The Amazing World of Gumball doesn’t excite me, since I’m not a Gumball fan, but it could be interesting. I’d prefer it if the show didn’t have the angle of “Elliot and his mum don’t know who brought them there and why?” The mystery angle isn’t necessary and I’d rather there not have been any kind of ongoing saga. Can’t TV shows just be funny anymore? Anyway, it’s too early for me to have any strong opinions about Eliot from Earth. I’m not expecting this show to rock my socks, but hopefully it will be worth a watch.

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  6. Since “other assorted stuff” is in the title, I’ll talk about that. On Wednesday, The Loud House was renewed for season 6, making it the only Nicktoon from the 2010s to get that far (the second longest would be the 2012 TMNT series, which ran for 5 seasons and 124 episodes). Loud House Season 5 premiered last night with the hour long special “Schooled”, and it’s impressive how it shakes up the status quo (Lincoln and his friends are now in middle school, Lori goes to Fairway College, and Lily starts preschool). While the show is still episodic and does it well, it’s nice to see that the show is willing to shake things up a bit.

    I’ve also recently been watching Glitch Techs, an action comedy cartoon that Nickelodeon put onto Netflix (the second time they did so after Pinky Malinky). It’s created by Eric Robles (creator of Fanboy And Chum Chum) and Dan Milano (writer for Robot Chicken, All Hail King Julien, and Dawn Of The Croods). It’s a show about two teenagers named aFive (real name Hector Nieves) and Miko Kubota, who join the Glitch Techs Hinobi, a notable video game and technology company. The Glitch Techs are a secret task force composed of a bunch of teenagers (the others being Mitch Williams, Zahra, Nix, Bergy, and Sandeep) as they go around fighting glitches that come out of Hinobi technology. They have special gauntlets that contain these glitches, and have to wipe the memory of the people in the area. The show has been well received for its loving tribute to video games (and even those that don’t know them can still follow the show must fine) as well as the relationships that develop over the show (for example, Five and Miko are really good friends, and are not in a romantic relationship). The show has some continuity hinting at something bigger, but it’s otherwise an episodic series with each episode having a self contained plot (though the episodes are apparently out of order). The show is currently in production hiatus. While the first 20 episodes can be found on Netflix, Nickelodeon stopped production of the show while the creators were working on what would’ve been a 10 episode season 2. This was mainly due to a management change at Nickelodeon over the last few years. There’s currently a petition to get the show renewed (or at least get those 10 episodes animated since they’ve already been written, storyboarded, and recorded).

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  7. silverstar

    I’ve never seen Glitch Techs, so I can’t comment on that.

    Regarding The Loud House: I couldn’t disagree more. I dislike this latest move with a fiery passion. The show was already headed to Genericville after around season 3 or 4, and there’s already far too emphasis on school on the show as it is, but this desire to “shake up the status quo” just reeks of desperation and creative bankruptcy to me. It’s clear the idea well is really starting to run dry now, but TLH is currently one of Nick’s biggest hits; I personally don’t think any scripted show should go beyond 3 or 4 seasons, but the show’s doing too well and if Nick axed TLH now, then Spongebob would be their only animated series not on Nick Jr., so Nick is going to keep milking this show for all its’ worth.

    I’m just not feeling this move at all, not in the slightest; they’re messing with the formula and the basic group dynamic far too much. On a live-action show, when a teenage character goes away to college, that means they’re being written out of the show, The title of the show is The Loud House, meaning the main cast has to be concentrated around, guess what, the HOUSE. You take a main character out of said house, and it’s not The Loud House anymore. While Lori has her moments of being kind of annoying, she’s too necessary to the family’s dynamic. What are they gonna do, put Leni in charge? No, just no. That’d be like if Moe Howard retired from the Three Stooges, but instead of replacing him, the studio just made Larry the boss. And you can’t age up Lily; her being a baby is her only character trait, change that, and what have you got? Nothing.

    This is a good dropping off point for me. I haven’t been keeping with things on TLH much lately, and based on what I have been seeing and reading, it doesn’t sound like I’ve been missing much. I’m officially done with The Loud House now. The first 2 seasons or so will always remain the best.

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    • Interestingly enough, there’s an episode coming out next week about Leni now being the oldest in the house, and how she’ll handle things. I’ve kept up with The Loud House since day 1, and the show has made subtle changes. Lily is still a baby, but she’s had more moments of acting independently. Lori is still one of the main characters, but I think her plots will be more about her life in college. Plus, many of her plots in seasons 3-4 have been more about her independence, and how she’ll door with being a young adult, which I think is an interesting move I mean, the show has already turned into an ensemble show, with a number of episodes that focus on the sisters’ relationships with others (like how episodes like Leader Of The Lack show Leni at her job at the mall, and how she’s still sweet, but needs to learn to show more backbone) , with a number of episodes that don’t have Lincoln in them (Good Sports/Geri-Antics is the first episode outside of The Casagrandes at the start of season 4 where he doesn’t appear in either segment). I will say there’s a change in the show’s tone, but I’d say it’s more due to addressing the complaints some people had on the show being a bit too cynical at times (there’s a reason the show has an entry under “darkness induced audience apathy” on tv tropes).

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  8. I haven’t watched The Loud House since season 2 (or early season 3, maybe? I’m not entirely sure), and it doesn’t sound like I’ve been missing anything great. I’ve noticed a significant decline in the show’s quality in the last crop of episodes that I saw (far too many generic school plots and far too much emphasis on young romance, even for the little kids, which makes no sense), so I just stopped watching it altogether. It sounds like TLH is on it’s way to becoming a zombie show that refuses to die like The Simpsons. Quite frankly, The Loud House was a premise that was fairly limited from the start; it’s just a slice of life show about a boy with a big family, so it was only a matter of time before the show wrote itself into a corner and began repeating certain types of story lines and gags. It’s obvious that Nickelodeon won’t end TLH as long as it keeps making the network money, but my personal feeling is that no scripted TV series should go beyond 3 or at the most 4 seasons, but that’s just my opinion.

    What’s unfortunate is that, like Silverstar already noted, as tired as The Loud House seems to be getting, it’s currently the only other original animated series that’s currently running on Nick besides SpongeBob that isn’t intended for preschoolers. Rise of TMNT has been exiled to Nicktoons, which means that the network is basically done with it. Nicktoons is Nickelodeon’s recycle bin. Beyond that, the channel serves no purpose. And I’ve read that now that Viacom has merged with CBS (and now goes by the name ViacomCBS), that the company will soon be adding Viacom owned properties such as the aforementioned Spongey One and others to the CBS All Access streaming service and said service will be getting a new (as yet unrevealed) name at the end of this year. Meaning that afterwards, the Nicktoons channel will have even less reason to exist than it does now.

    I haven’t seen Glitch Techs (although I was aware of it), so I can’t comment on that.

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    • Rise Of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles aired its series finale on Nicktoons Network last month, with season 2 actually having its episode count slashed from 26 episodes to 14 episodes. There’s still that upcoming Netflix movie, but not much else.

      Regarding Loud House, the show has changed in some ways. For example, Clyde’s crush on Lori disappeared starting in season 3, Ronnie Anne and Lincoln are now just good friends, and the only real romance plots are Luna with her girlfriend Sam, Lori with her boyfriend Bobby, and Luan with her boyfriend Benny, and it’s usually just a few episodes. I don’t really mind the changes. The characters are still fun to watch, and the change to an ensemble show helps to develop the characters more (for example, I like the friendship that Lynn has with Mr. Grouse since Good Sports). I don’t really think there are too many repeated storylines, and the one that happen usually have enough differences. In some cases , they can improve on a previous episode (for example, I find season 3’s “Hero Today Gone Tomorrow” to be a better version of season 2’s “Lynn-er Takes All” due to Lynn’s character development actually sticking in the end).

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      • silverstar

        For anyone who’s still digging The Loud House, I say if the show’s still doing something for you, then by all means continue to enjoy it. Have at it. As for me, I just feel like the show peaked somewhere around seasons 2 or 3 and has now lost its’ focus and uniqueness; once it became an ensemble piece, it just reminds me of an animated Full House or something similar; not my jam personally, but it should be noted that I’m light years away from the target audience for this show. I’m an old crank, so naturally this show’s not gonna appeal to me the way it would to a kid.

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  9. I’ve seen some debate online if the 2 Muppet Babies cartoons should be considered official Muppet productions. This is mainly due to how they’re both animated and skew for younger audiences (the original series went into reruns on either Nick Jr or Playhouse Disney depending on where you lived, while the 2018 series is a Disney Junior show). I would say they should count. If nothing else, they at least have the longevity factor. Besides The Muppet Show (which ran for 5 seasons and 120 episodes), both Muppet Babies cartoons are the longest running Muppet shows. The original series had like 100 episodes over 7-8 seasons, while the 2018 series currently has 41 episodes over 2 seasons (if season 3 is the last season , that’ll bring the show to at least 61 episodes). Compare that to The Jim Henson Hour (12 episodes), Muppets Tonight (2 seasons with 22 episodes in total), The Muppets (2015) (16 episodes), and Muppets Now (it was originally a series of shorts, but they were stitched together into being 6 full length episodes).

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  10. To be very nitpicky, both incarnations of Muppet Babies were non-canon, if we’re going to go with the premise that The Muppet Movie (1979) was the “true” story of how they all met, but none of the Muppets theatrical films were in canon with one another, so yeah, that’s debatable. However, if you’re asking me if I think that Scooter’s twin sister Skeeter and Summer Penguin should be made part of the official Muppets roster, my answer is “Yes”. It’s been argued that since Skeeter has yet to make an appearance in puppet form, that she’s not a true Muppet, but that could easily be rectified (more on this later). Summer, on the other hand, was made into a puppet in Disney Junior’s “Play Date” segments that aired between seasons 1 and 2.

    I don’t know if you’ve seen Muppets Now on Disney+ (I have seen all five of the initial episodes), and my opinions on the show are mixed. It’s an interesting idea and promising premise, but some of the individual segments could use some work. There was a surprising lack of Fozzie Bear on the show so far. He only made a cameo appearance in the first episode and in the wraparounds in the second episode, yet we got a Muppet Labs sketch in all 5 episodes, which I didn’t think was necessary. If you’ve seen one Muppet Labs sketch, you’ve seen them all. And someone who works on Muppets Now must really like the Swedish Chef, since he appeared in every single episode so far.

    Getting back to the original point, one thing that Disney could do with the next crop of Muppets Now episodes (assuming that the show gets a 2nd season, of course), is bring in some new segments featuring some more characters. Make a puppet version of an older Summer and have her make her puppet debut on Muppets Now. Summer is an artist, so why not have Summer host an art room segment where the character parodies the late Bob Ross’ show? As for Skeeter, well, Muppets Now is on the internet, right? So why not have Skeeter and Scooter host a video game review show? Have the twins do funny reviews on fake video games. Skeeter’s also athletic, so why not make some Muppet Sport Shorts featuring Skeeter?

    And please, Disney, give Fozzie and Gonzo more to do on the show! Any Muppet Show Players project needs to have it’s “Big 4”; Kermit the Frog, Miss Piggy, Fozzie Bear and Gonzo.

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    • silverstar

      One thing that I noticed about Muppets Now is the curious lack of musical numbers, though it could likely be due to Disney not wanting to pay for musical rights. The Electric Mayhem only appeared once on the show, and they didn’t perform at all; they showed up in one wraparound to wake up Scooter, and that was it. I get that maybe Disney doesn’t want to pay for covers, but what’s the point in having a band on the show if they’re not going to sing? It’s like having John Travolta on your show and not having him dance.

      I also noticed that in the Electric Mayhem’s sole appearance (so far), Lips the trumpeter was noticeable by his absence. This could be because Lips was created for and performed by Steve Whitmire, who got fired a couple of years ago; this might also explain the suspicious absence of Rizzo from this show.

      Finally, an Unpopular Opinion: I like that the writers have broken up Kermit and Miss Piggy and I hope they stay apart from now on. I’m not kidding. I was never a fan of that ship; it was chaotic at best, an abusive relationship at worst, and frankly, both characters are more interesting apart, plus the creators and producers focused far too much on that lame ship at the expense of the other characters and their respective schticks. Maybe now that they’re broken up the writers can finally start concentrating on other aspects of the characters.

      P.S.: I like that Uncle Deadly is around full time now, just give him more to do besides be Piggy’s lackey. Keep Deadly deadly.

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      • It’s kind of odd how there are no songs in Muppets Now given how Muppet Babies (2018) has a song in almost every episode (with some exceptions).

        Speaking of Lips, the role was actually recast with Peter Linz (best known as Walter, though he also took over Statler after Steve Whitmire left). Rizzo actually appeared in the Disney Family Sing-along that aired on May 10 on ABC, but he didn’t have any audible dialogue, just singing as part of a chorus. Likewise, when the Muppets appeared on the James Corden Show on June 26, he once again just sand with the chorus with no solo dialogue. Rizzo’s only real prominence in recent years is on Muppet Babies, with Ben Diskin voicing him and Gonzo.

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  11. It’s interesting you mention older versions of Summer and Skeeter given this interesting email my friend Cassie sent me. With her permission, I’ll repost what she said, in regards to how, though Summer and Skeeter are good characters, they unfortunately won’t be official Muppets. There’s also a link to this article she sent me.

    “A) First off, while The Muppets franchise has plenty of lovable characters, they don’t exactly do the best job when it comes to female representation. Outside of Piggy, Janice (from Electric Mayhem), and Camilla (Gonzo’s chickens), there aren’t many notable females in the Muppets. Compare that to Sesame Street where, even if it’s male skewing, is a lot more accommodating for girls. You have Prairie Dawn, Rosita, Grundgetta, Zoe, Abby, Julia, and plenty more. Most new female Muppets in the Muppets franchise don’t have much of a long life outside of maybe 2 projects. There’s also of course how there’s more primary female performers on Sesame Street than The Muppets, and the 3 characters I mentioned are primarily performed by men.

    B) The second is when it comes to Disney Junior shows based on/connected to properties meant for older audiences. Any new characters introduced in these shows would not appear in other official Disney projects that aren’t Disney Junior projects. Take for example, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and Mickey And The Roadster Racers (or Mickey Mouse Mixed Up Adventures as it’s now called). The former has the character of Toodles and the latter has (among many others) Billy Beagle and Emmy Lou. Once the former show ended, Toodles never appeared in any other Disney media, not in a major role anyway. I’m going to assume it’s the case for the latter. There’s also something like Sofia The First, where she’s interacted with characters from various Disney movies, but is not considered an official Disney princess. Elena Of Avalor is in the same boat. And then we have The Lion Guard, introducing Kion and his friends, who only appear in this show. That’s it. So, I’m thinking that once this show ends, she won’t be considered an official Muppet.

    C) The final thing involves Scooter’s sister Skeeter, who only appeared in the 1984 Muppet Babies and anything associated with it like the live show and various picture books from that time period. I haven’t seen the show in years, but I do remember liking how fierce and adventurous she was. One has to wonder why she hasn’t made any appearance in an official Muppet project as an adult (with the exception of a 2009 comic, and she was only name dropped once at the end). In this interview I found from 2016, it mentions a quote from Frank Oz. The article is lengthy, but I want to highlight one thing. He (quoting from Frank) mentions wanting to keep the Muppets aimed for more of an adult audience. That’s not to say to exclude kids, but make it more for older viewers as the target demographic. Both Muppet Babies shows target young kids , and while still having a healthy audience of both kids and adults, are definitely meant to be sweeter and more light-hearted. Perhaps for better comparison, look at Sesame Street, which has an adult audience, but the target audience is young kids due to the emphasis on an educational curriculum. It’s also why the show has no problem bringing in characters from international versions of Sesame Street since they have the same target audience. If the character of Summer was introduced in an older skewing Muppet project, then she could be an official Muppet. As it is, that’s not going to happen.”

    https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/75596/her-name-was-skeeter-mystery-missing-muppet

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  12. A behind the scenes video for new Animaniacs was put up in honor of the original series’ 27th anniversary (with the footage being pre-pandemic).

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  13. https://attractionsmagazine.com/wonderful-world-of-mickey-mouse-animated-shorts-disney/

    There’s a new series of Mickey Mouse shorts being made for Disney+ . The show comes out November 18 with new episodes on Fridays starting November 27. It features the same team who worked on the Paul Rudish Mickey Mouse shorts.

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    • silverstar

      No doubt one of the motivating factors for Disney basically turning the Paul Rudish shorts into a series was the success of Warner Bros.’ Looney Tunes Cartoons on HBO Max. And that’s funny because Wabbit/New Looney Tunes was partially inspired by the Rudish Mickey Mouse shorts.

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  14. So, here’s something interesting. This is a bit long, so buckle up. We all know how a lot of kids shows will often have to have elements needed to appeal to kids. However, one element that intrigues me is how higher ups think that kids shows should always have kids/teenagers be the main characters (or have older characters act childish and naive), and how it’s rare to have adults as the main characters. There are plenty of kids shows that appeal to a wide audience that includes adults, such as Steven Universe and Gravity Falls. However, think back to the 1990s and early 2000s. You could have kids shows that star adult characters, such as Rocko’s Modern Life and Samurai Jack. Though their revivals are different given how the Rocko revival movie still appeals to kids and adults while Samurai Jack season 5 aims for more of an adult audience due to airing on Adult Swim. I’m not complaining since I consider myself open minded and tend to like a lot of shows, though it’s interesting how there’s a much more pronounced effort to have kids shows star young characters, only really showing them as adults if need be near the end (like how Lori on The Loud House is 17 going on 18, young enough for the target audience yet also old enough to relate to older viewers as well). Let me give a few examples.

    1. Established Properties

    In a tweet about kids shows (both preschool and non-preschool shows), Shea Fontana (showrunner for the 2015 DC Superhero Girls) mentioned how kids shows will usually focus on kids/teenagers as main characters. Shows based on established properties can be more lenient in focusing on an adult character like Batman, but even that’s not always the case. The most successful DC properties in the 2010s that keep kids as the target audience are Teen Titans Go, the DC Superhero Girls franchise, and the Lego DC Comics Superheroes DVD movies. The first obviously focuses on teenagers and the wacky hijinks they get into. The second takes characters who are traditionally adult heroes (or in some cases, they become heroes here) and aging them down to teenagers. Wonder Woman in particular is the lead because of how she’s a great warrior, peacemaker, and is also a princess, which makes for a great marketing strategy due to using the character’s familiarity with general audiences. The third one stars adult characters who are written in a more silly way, and every movie since Attack Of The Legion Of Doom (with focus on Cyborg) will give major focus to a young character or relative newcomer to the League. Some examples include Robin’s prominent role in Gotham City Breakout and Batman: Family Matters, Supergirl’s prominent role in Cosmic Clash, Jessica Cruz’s prominent role in Aquaman: Rage Of Atlantis, and Shazam getting his own movie this year. There are cases of this in other franchises, such as the recent Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoons aging down April O’Neil so she’s closer in age to the turtles, or the recent Spider-Man cartoons aging down some heroes and villains so they’re closer in age to Spider-Man, such as Iron Fist in Ultimate Spiderman (the 2012 cartoon) or Doctor Octopus in the 2017 cartoon Marvel’s Spiderman (where he starts the series at 19 years old, only slightly older than Peter). Even something like the Transformers cartoons tend to focus more on younger characters (or those who are relative newcomers), with Transformers Rescue Bots being the most successful Transformers cartoon at 104 episodes.

    2. Royalty

    Another element common to kids shows is how, when they star royalty, it’s usually either a princess or prince, never a king or queen. In an interview with Entertainment Weekly (go to 11:00), Aimee Carrero said how kids shows don’t usually show them being king or queen since it’s generally seen as an adult thing. At best, you can end the show with them being king or queen , but not show anything afterwards. Given that she voices two iconic princesses (Elena from Elena Of Avalor and Adora/She Ra on She Ra And The Princesses Of Power), it’s not surprising. Some other examples of this include Cleopatra on Cleopatra In Space, Sofia from Sofia The First (which Elena Of Avalor spunoff from), and Rapunzel in the Tangled franchise (she’s a young adult, not an older adult). Probably the one exception is My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic, but even still, Twilight is still a princess when she takes over Equestria in the series finale, and characters who are clearly adults like Celestia and Luna are still princesses.

    3. Adult Characters And Mature Stories

    So, when you have prominent adult characters and they’re involved in more mature stories, it’s not surprising if they still have to play off of kids. DuckTales 2017 co-creator Francisco Angones mentioned how it was harder to greenlight stories that focus more on adult characters, particularly in “THE GOLDEN LAGOON OF WHITE AGONY PLAINS!”. Even episodes like “The Outlaw Scrooge McDuck” still have him tell the story to Louie, or how many of Della’s episodes will focus more on her relationship with her kids. This can also apply to shows that take premises typically saved for adults, and have kids as the main characters. For example, Tig N Seek takes place in the Department Of Lost And Found, something that sounds tailor made for someone older, yet main character Tiggy is 8. The Disney Junior show TOTS is about a penguin and a flamingo delivering baby animals to families. The storks are adults, but the 2 main leads are kids (and their voice actor are respectively 15 and 12). Likewise, the title character on Mira Royal Detective is 8 years old, and the previous royal detective was established to be an adult. She’s a commoner and the royal characters she hangs out with are both princes.

    This is a bit long, so I’ll wrap up here. Is it definitely more pronounced these days for kids shows to focus on kid/teenage characters?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/SheaFontana/status/1270067450281771009

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankAngones/status/1198133239786790913

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    • silverstar

      There’s an idee fixe among kid-vid producers that children have an easier time relating to shows that star kids like themselves; adults in general are seen by suits to be kind of dull since they have to hold down jobs and responsibilities. Usually you don’t see a kids’ show starring an adult unless they’re something deemed fun or larger-than-life like a popular celebrity (ex: Camp Candy, Rick Moranis in Gravedale High), a superhero or crime fighter (ex: Superman, Batman, Inspector Gadget, Darkwing Duck), a magical or mythical creature (ex: My Little Pony) or are childlike themselves (ex; Pee-Wee’s Playhouse, Spongebob Squarepants). Kids’ WB! famously went through a phase where they flat-out didn’t want any shows on their lineup that starred grownups and were only interested in shows about kids; Justice League was originally supposed to air on Kids’ WB!, it was the successor to Superman: TAS, hence why Green Lantern, Aquaman and the Flash were all introduced on S:TAS; this was meant to eventually set up the Justice League on the next series, but Kids’ WB! weren’t interested in a show starring a team of adults, so the show ended up on Cartoon Network instead.

      A kids’ show starring adults can work (The Real Ghostbusters comes to mind), but TV execs typically don’t like to take risks, they’d rather stick to tried-and-true formulas, but every so often, someone will try to break the mold. Back in the 70’s it was almost a requirement for every Saturday Morning show to have an animal or non-human mascot of some kind in it, and that eventually passed.

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  15. https://mobile.twitter.com/Bickpixx/status/1285010885329682432

    After Russi Taylor’s death last year, the role of Minnie has been recast with Kaitlyn Robrock starting in the most recent episodes of Mickey Mouse Mixed Up Adventures. The show was previously called Mickey And The Roadster Racers. (she’s been in shows like Amphibia and Doc McStuffins). I have to admit that she sounds very close to Russi Taylor. There’s a bit more of a higher pitch, but you can barely hear it

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  16. Have you ever had one of those times where, when it comes to established voices in tv shows or franchises, you find the replacement better than the original? Let me give a few examples:

    1. Sasha Baron Cohen is good as King Julien, but Danny Jacobs is great as King Julien. He keeps his comical traits, yet we also see more to his character, especially in All Hail King Julien. It probably helps that, other than the 3 movies, he’s voiced him in everything, even the NBC specials that otherwise keep the celebrity voice cast from the movies.

    2. While he’s essentially just using his Cyborg voice, I find Khary Payton to be a better fit for Wasabi from Big Hero 6 han Damon Wayans Jr. He just really shows off his nerdish side yet can also make him very fun loving. It probably helps how he has a tv show to expand on the character. He even reprised the role for Kingdom Hearts 3 (I’ve never played Kingdom Hearts).

    3. Jackie Chan is fine as Monkey from the Kung Fu Panda movies. However, I find James Sie to be the superior voice. It probably also helps that he voiced Jackie on Jackie Chan Adventures. He has more screentime in the first Kung Fu Panda show, helping him out, and can speak English better .

    4. Emma Stone is fine as Eep in The Croods. However, I find Stephanie Lemelin (who voiced her in the prequel series Dawn Of The Croods) to be better. Sure, she’s using a familiar sounding voice (mainly Artemis from Young Justice), but she gives such a natural energy to the performance that it feels more enjoyable.

    5. The last one is The Man In The Yellow Hat. Will Ferrell voiced him in the 2006 movie. For everything else (the DVD sequels to the movie, as well as the PBS Kids show), he’s voiced by Jeff Bennett. Will is good in the role, but I like Jeff’s take more. Besides having more material, he gives a very natural sounding performance in making him sound stressed yet clearly loving.

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    • silverstar

      I really enjoyed Diedrich Bader’s performance as the Missing Link in Monsters VS Aliens: The Series; I’m not going to go so far as to say that Bader’s voicing of the role was better than Will Arnett’s, just that I haven’t seen the movie in a while and I’ve always like Diedrich Bader’s voice.

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